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Now India’s state of denial? Or World’s?

Living in a country so badly bruised by the repeated military takeovers and burdened by the ever increasing weight of ideational contradictions I have allowed vision not to become too clouded by the usual propaganda. I think the fortunate people of institutionalized democracies should also try not to inhale too much of propaganda and always vouch for the freedom of speech. Frankly so with the exception of some Hindutva parties I have never viewed Indian leaders given to communal digressions. I have always believed that the Indian leaders mostly from the Congress or the Left consider communalism nothing but a baser ploy not worthy of being employed. This in my view again with the exception of the BJP has been a great achievement of the Indian democracy and state secularism. I therefore was seriously tiffed to see Indian hawks, government and the media baying for Union Minorities Affairs Minister A R Antulay’s blood for he had simply stated his opinion. Antulay had made a remark which hinted that Karkare’s assassination benefitted more the Hindu hardliners than Pakistan. It is worth pointing out that Mr Karkare who was martyred in the Mumbai attacks was probing the case of the Malegaon attack. A serving Colonel Purohit had been apprehended and was under investigation not only for the involvement in the Malegaon incident but also in the Samjhota Express attack. Karkare was regularly receiving death threats and Gujarat CM and BJP hardliner Narendra Modi had repeatedly asked for his removal. Exactly at a time when it seemed Purohit would crack, Karkare was killed in the Mumbai attacks. Could it be a coincidence? Or did the “terrorists” in Pakistan had anything to gain from Karkare’s assassination? If it was a coincidence then ofcourse it is to be believed that god or the natural causation was unhappy with the work of Karkare. If Pakistanis wanted him dead then it would highlight something far too dangerous: a nexus between the Pakistani Muslim jihadis and the Hindutva hawks in India. In other words globalization of terror beyond the usual boundaries of faith. But both these assertions seem ridiculous. At least the first one does albeit bolstering the cause of the saffron brigade. The case of Colonel Purohit and his cohorts was widely reported in the Indian press just before the attacks. Initially there was state of denial with the assertions that a Hindu could not be a terrorist (a vocation perhaps reserved only for a Muslim). But then Rajeev Gandhi was not killed by a Muslim.
Now that Anatulay has made this comment there are people seeking his resignation and presenting him akin to weakening the case of India against Pakistan. Consider Javed Akhtar who demands his stepping, “In fact, I am extremely disappointed, horrified and shocked that this statement could come from a Central Cabinet minister. A statement like this at this point of time is weakening the case of India in the international community as well as giving some kind of leverage to Pakistan.” What Mr Akhtar? What case are you talking about? Can an honest opinion harm a government’s stance? Is that too a crime in a democracy? Mr Antulay has expressed these views because this is what appeals to him. This could be either because if there exists any substantial evidence against Pakistan his government has not shared it with him or else because there exists no such thing at all. In either case the Union government should have given his views thoughts seriously. But is it? I think not.
Unfortunately this attitude on the part of Congress, started with the demise of Rajeev Gandhi and Mrs Sonia Gandhi’s becoming the head of her party. Mrs Gandhi if you remember is an Italian born. Don’t take me wrong. I am not challenging her loyalty. No I think she is more committed to Indian nationhood than many of the Indian Hindutva fundos. What I am pointing out is a delicate matter, a cultural matter at that. Either she knows that she can be attacked on her foreign origins and hence in order to prove herself more loyal than an average Indian she caves in to the BJP’s blackmail or else she is culturally blind to the seriousness of the communal polarization that has burgeoned under BJP’s stewardship hence insensitive to the needs of a secular state under such pressure. How else would you explain the choice of Shankar Singh Waghela in Gujarat even after Modi sponsored carnage there? Waghela belongs to the same moronic brigade. She is a woman of integrity and a lovely person, a person who has truly sacrificed her original nationhood for the country of her love, another Mother Teresa if you would. But she needs to remember that Mother Teresa never left the wisdom of her own world behind when she came to India, nor should Mrs. Gandhi. If you remember this blogger and columnist vehemently criticized Umma Bharti and another BJP lunatic who had challenged her foreign origins and hence convinced her not to run for premiership. But India’s communal issue is quite delicate and she should not be seen contradicting Congress’s secular value system. This is time to give up hotheadedness and give the other possibilities a thought. Mr Antulay after all has not committed no sin in merely stating his opinion. I am sure truth in this sad hour is more important than any real or fictional case against Pakistan.
As for the case against Pakistan the Indian government has not provided any substantial proof. You are guilty of taking politicians, your politicians, too seriously. The so called evidence you are pointing to fails the standards of rational thought. Like what? Consider the possibilities. You say that the man confessed of being a Pakistani. You know that any man can break under the torture of the South Asian interrogates and succumbing to the pressure make any statement you like. Likewise, you claim that a Pakistani man has confessed of fathering him. Now through the channels that brought you this information, I am sure there must have been some more credible evidence. For instance the pictures of the alleged terrorist with his alleged father. You say that he has spent so much time in Pakistan so there must be more than one person who knew him and hence could furnish visual evidence. The video of the so called father making this statement. And above all, the DNA matching. You know Michael Mullen was in Pakistan before any foreign politician. You know it the Pakistani establishment cannot take American pressure. Let me tell you that all of the three Pakistani villages called Faridkot were combed for evidence. None was found. The place is cordoned off since then to preserve the possibility of evidence there. Had they found any evidence believe me the evidence should have reached the Indian government by now and running on your channels. Governments are not run on pure conjectures. Believe me if your government had any substantial evidence in this age of modern media and internet it would have been up and running on television. What you are doing is inhaling the propaganda of the politicians. The congress party has already inhaled it. It is time to end this denial state and investigate all possibilities. People other than Muslims or Pakistanis can also be terrorists. Today only a minority affairs minister is saying this. Tomorrow secular Hindus will say nothing less.
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about 1 year ago
India is going through a hysteria. Mumbai was not India’s 9/11 but the shrill certainly matches 9/11. India is in a tough neighborhood and certainly is trying to be a regional power. When you do that you basically attempt to change the political paradigm and many in the neighborhood would come after you. There are plenty of groups in the area who feel intimidated and they would try to hurt India. It does not matter where they come from. Today it is Pakistan, tomorrow they can be from Afghanistan or Iran or even Burma. Pakistan is paying a price of its foolhardiness when it tried to become a regional power and interfered in Afghanistan and Kashmir. Now India wants to be the regional power in the same area…I guess all we can say is: welcome to the club…
about 1 year ago
10 Words a Pakistani Terrorist would never say!
One of the most interesting things about the Mumbai terrorist attack was that the terrorists called a TV station and talked to journalists and rambled on and on about their perceived grievances with the rest of the world. And it was very much rambling on their part because half the stuff made no sense whatsoever.
In the aftermath of the attacks, with the Indian Government trying to put all the blame on Pakistan , it is interesting to listen to these audio recordings because even a cursory listening leaves one in no doubt that the person on the phone is NOT of Pakistani origin. Since the Indian Government at no point has denied that these calls were a hoax or were not from the terrorists we can assume for now that they were indeed originating from Nariman House and Mr. Imran (how unoriginal a name ! bet one of the other names that the Indian Government releases for the terrorists will be Javed, those two names have been staples of Indian nightmares for a few decades now ! ) was on the other side.
Among a lot of Hindi words that ‘Mr. Imran’ used, the following 10 are least likely to be used by a Pakistani, Punjabi or otherwise:
1. Julm — as an exasperated Javed Akhtar pointed out to someone on Indian Idol, don’t butcher the language, it is zulm not julm and no Pakistani would EVER say julm.
2. Jiadati — ditto – its ziadati
3. Jindagi — zindagi, you moron!
4. Naita — naita !! who would call a politician naita in Pakistan ? Siyasatdan dude !
5. Itehas — err … history is tareekh for a Pakistani, not itehas no matter how many Bollywood films you’ve digested !
6. Shanti — aman, not Shanti ! Shanti for Pakistani’s means ‘ugly Indian woman’ !!
7. Parsaran — a word we used to make fun of while listening to Hindi commentators on TV…”match ka seedha parsaran” !! Definitely not in any Urdu dictionary.
8. Atank Waadi — what? if he’d called himself a ‘khalnayak’ too, it would have made my day !
9. Anayai — that’s un-ay-i. Don’t know what a Pakistani would say, ziadati I guess !! not in any Pakistani’s vocabulary anyway.
10. Paatshala —- no I’m not making that up. He actually called a school that !!
and I haven’t even mentioned the ‘shuction’ (section) and ‘meray ko’ and ‘tumharay ko bol rahay hain na’ and ‘mudhbhir’ and a host of other very Indian vocabulary that this guy was using.
For a listen go to You Tube:
Video – 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhO6rynb1C8
Video – 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP11KdBjx88
I think if the blame has to be put on Pakistan for any and every terrorist activity that happens in India they can at least do us the courtesy of teaching these people proper Urdu or at the least let Javed Akhtar make the phone calls in future !
about 1 year ago
Forget about the jokers of the likes of Antuley.they are products of the sickularism in India , invented for vote bank politics.We Indians are used to such fools and nobody really cares wot thse people say.
lets talk about the real issue
As we can see from history , Pakistan get away with worst kind of screwups it does and even get rewarded for it.It has always managed to play the ‘victim’ card and live on it.
chronology of expressions from Pak.
a)Terrorists are not pakistanis show us proof
>>>>>> show proof….??? for what ?? , so that you can destroy the leads
b) They may be Pakistanis , but they are stateless actors
>>>>>> are these stateless actors came from another planet ? nation states have to own up responsibilities of problems originating from within their borders . or dont call yourself a nation since you are not in charge!
c) ISI is involved ?.. no way
>>>>>> for statrters , let thse boys ask permissions from you before these kind of mis adventures , or just accept the truth that they are outa your control.. dont vouch for them since you yourselves dont know what they are up to!
d) we are ready for joint investigation
>>>>> you are in denial mode from day 1 and any juvenile over there know the whearebouts of terror camps and your establishment is so bluntly confident about this flawed policy .give us one good reason to trust you !
who prepares these jokes in Pakistani establishment ?
e) We have also suffered cos of terrorism a lot
>>>>> is it our fault ? you made terrorism a state policy way back in 80s and now the genie is out of the bottle.
f) The world should understand and support pakistan to curb terrorism.
>>>>> at what cost ? anyways the civillian government seems to be interested only in taking some half hearted cosmetic steps .
g) India is gonna attack us , so we are withdrawing troops from western frontier and war against terrorism is gonna suffer
>>>>>> the blackmail again !!! . understand that it is in your self interest and may be the last chance to be in control of your territory. you let loose this genie and it will come after you.
the people who tries to justify the lack of response from pakistani establishment are writing the recepie of poison pill they will have to chew . sooner or later !
about 1 year ago
Mr. Victor, none of your comments are matching the stark reality.Dont worry none of the above quote unquote will happen.Indias attitude towards Pakistan was never sinciere.Nothing is going to happen, everything will be fine, both countries have no choice inspite of all these unfortunate hiccups but to behave in the long run. Sitting back comfortably on internet and passing comments like painting a picture of multiple terrorist camps in Pakistan is a description of a fantasy land or a Indian movie. Its not true,please do your homework and go read in detail the history of partition, size of your country and ours and decide who was the bully all along. Pakistan is sovereign state and knows exactly what it is doing.Dont talk about the world opinion, its worst for India on many issues. In reality I bet You must not have even taken a bus out of your city where you reside, so it does not make sense giving those superficial rdiculous views and disrespecting a nation. You cannot dictate us as you did back in 1971, its totally a different era, only diplomacy will work in the long run, for the sake of the future of masses on both sides of the border. Pakistan has no friendly diplomatic relations with India, but we can work on it gradually by solving major issues, like we have with china or middle eastern world. I remember Sikh terrorists hijacked an Indian plane to karachi back in 80s, and Pakistani commandos helped, were you able to control them and currently 13 separatists movements going on in India right now. You guys have an inflated sense of ego about your country.Slow down.
about 1 year ago
Here are number of current affairs topics to read about for Mr Victor and other Indians, do your homework so you understand:PLEAS READ the entire article:
1) A top US think-tank/BROOKINGS INSTITUTE warned the incoming Obama administration on Friday not to allow a military conflict between India and Pakistan as it would generate a grave and severe crisis.
2) The Washington-based Brookings Institution also warned that a failure against the Taliban in Afghanistan would create serious problems for the United States and the international community.
3)The memo reminded the Obama team that they needed to match security measures with efforts to build the rule of law and achieve sustained economic development in Afghanistan, and to boost security in Pakistan.
4)The memo urged Mr Obama to step up counterinsurgency aid and training for the Pakistani military and undertake military action against major jihadist targets in Fata. But she also urged him to avoid civilian casualties.
5)’The current tensions between India and Pakistan easily could escalate into a proxy war in Kashmir or Afghanistan, if not into a direct military confrontation,’ she warned.
‘Highly dangerous in itself, an escalation would—as before—divert Pakistan’s military resources away from its border with Afghanistan and weaken the government’s resolve to take on the jihadist groups.’
6)They advised the Obama administration to seek multilateral engagement with Pakistan, noting that the Pakistani civilian leadership of President Asif Ali Zardari had repeatedly indicated its willingness to reach accommodation with India and counter the terrorist threats facing both countries.
7)The memo notes that the Biden-Lugar bill that would commit $15 billion in development aid to Pakistan over 10 years provides a vehicle for assistance.
8)REMANENTS OF SOVIET/AFGHAN war: Pakistani fighter jets on Sunday attacked suspected Taliban and al-Qaeda positions in Mohmand, killing four militants, an official said.
The air strike took place in Mohmand district of the Bajaur tribal agency, where troops have been engaged in fierce fighting with rebels since the launch of a major army operation in August.
9)SABAGAI: From atop a craggy hillock, the silver-haired Lt. Col. Javed Baloch gestures toward a small black opening in a sandstone outcropping. It’s the mouth of a cave.Cave by cave, the Pakistani army is trying to blow up the underground labyrinth running from tribal areas toward the border with Afghanistan to keep militants away.This is the front line of Pakistan’s battle against militants on its own soil. The three-month-old offensive is the country’s most aggressive effort to date
10)INDIAS situation: In the euphoria of the recent U.S senate approval of the Indo-US nuclear deal, Indian establishment completely forgot the future effects of that deal. The Indo-American treaty on nuclear issue is being imposed upon India against the public opinion, without any voting in the parliament or any referendum of the people. The nuclear deal it has little to do with the nuclear power generations but it aims at the elimination of India’s ability to produce any nuclear weapons. Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), which India has refused to sign so far, is about to be imposed upon India through a back door with devastating consequences for India’s immediate future. Already the US senate has imposed a new clause that in future national security organizations of USA, which means CIA and FBI, would now collaborate with India regarding nuclear non-proliferation. This in effect would imply that US organizations would make sure India will not be able to gain any advantage to use its nuclear facilities to create nuclear weapons and dictate policies with future realtions with Pakistan and china.
11)Dr Homi Sethna, former chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission and one of the founding-father of India’s nuclear program, said that what Dr Manmohan Singh was about to sign was worse than joining the NPT regime.
12) it will “compromise the sovereignty of this country for decades to come”. He has exposed the very enormous financial price that India will have to pay as well, between Rs 300,000 to Rs 400,000 corers in nuclear reactors that will be totally dependent for their existence on a yearly audit of our policies by the US Congress.
about 1 year ago
Farukh,
All this while I thought you were a sensible and balanced journalist. I am disappointed, that you too have fallen for a trivial opportunity presented by a corrupt and least respected politician. Read MJ Akbar in TOI , you will get a better perspective. Do me one more favor , please block this hare brained blogger called abdsly so that some serious bloggers can at least exchange views that matter.
about 1 year ago
hey shreeks like freek show, cant handle the truth, true facts and reality right, I dont care if Farrukh blocks me, its free speech and I have my opinions, infact you should be blocked for disrespecting Farrukh, learn to absorb everybodys opinions, otherwise why you even try to come to this website named: Pakistani bloggers, I think Farrukh is the most NEUTRAL blogger amongst the list with diversity in mind.What do you mean serious blogger, do you mean Paki bashing bloggers.I dont get it.
about 1 year ago
Oh yes. If you are glued to the media in India or Pakistan, you will think that we have gone mad. But no. There’s a life beyond the media. Relax Mian
about 1 year ago
Make the Pakistani army (along with the ISI) accountable to the parliament. How many wars have been started by the army before a complete agreement could be reached in the parliament ? It is time for the Pakistani people to take the control into their own hands.
Until the Pakistani parliament has total control over its army, Zardari’s government would not have any credibility (either before India, or before the US, or before the international community in general).
The crisis in Mumbai should be a watershed event for the people of Pakistan.
About Mr Antulay, he is sadly pandering to the old tradition of rousing Muslim sectarian feeling for votes. But he will soon realize that this will not work any longer. (Indian parliament will hold elections soon).
about 1 year ago
abdsly,
Do you need more reasons why i called you Hare brained?
about 1 year ago
The first use of harebrained dates to 1548. The spelling hairbrained also has a long history, going back to the 1500s when hair was a variant spelling of hare. The hair variant was preserved in Scotland into the 18th century, and as a result it is impossible to tell exactly when people began writing hairbrained.
IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL ME Mr freak (noun:a person or animal on exhibition as an example of a strange deviation from nature;a monster.) thats fine, go ahead vent it out as much you want on this sophiticated, intellectual website and keep living in your miserable 3rd world fantasy land, BUT REMEMBER IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE TRUE FACTS AND REALITY, comprende!
about 1 year ago
Whats going on?INDIA////
Interpol chief presses India to provide evidence
Associated Press Writer Jean H. Lee, Associated Press Writer – Tue Dec 23, 12:24 pm ETNEW DELHI – Nearly a month after the Mumbai terror attacks, India has not provided the evidence needed for Interpol to help identify and apprehend the suspected masterminds, the chief of the global police agency said Tuesday.
Ronald Noble, speaking in Islamabad after a visit to New Delhi, said Pakistan has agreed to work with the agency to help investigate the attacks that killed 164 people in India’s financial hub last month.
But he said India has provided no names or information that would allow police in other countries to check their databases, calling it “not acceptable” for New Delhi to provide those details to the media first.
India’s reluctance to turn over evidence — while demanding that Pakistan crack down on the militant group suspected of hatching the plot — has been a major irritant to Islamabad.
On Monday, Pakistan sent fighter jets screaming through the skies near major cities in a display of military force that raised concerns the two nuclear powers may go to war for a fourth time.
about 1 year ago
What evidence would be enough for pakistan to act on if a person caught alive is not enough. An independent journalist of the dawn conducted qasab’s father’s interview which got shelved in pakistani media. The area is cordoned off so that others cant talk to him. Why is this? The FBI interviewed Qasab and i heard the spokesperson in tv that they are convinced by the pakistani elements. Same thing was echoed by Condoliza rice, Gordon Brown & John Mccain.
Whats the point in hiding the people who are acting against even pakistan today. No one is saying its common pakistani people or the civilian govt who are at fault. Is the sense of ego coming in between as its been observed that Pakistan doesnt act if asked by India but acts if asked by USA or the international community.
about 1 year ago
Ok Abd”sly”you still refuse to cow down.I am really impressed that you took so much pain to trace the origins of the word “Hare brained” and distorted all facts to arrive at “hair brained”. So much for whatever you carry in your thick head.
Yet you say I ignore facts and reality. Pity your sense of history and sense of self righteousness.
about 1 year ago
Freaks dont worry about me, you indians have prefernces for COLONIAL rule english words, the language has changed, you need to update that, beside your current affairs.By the way i proof readed my comments with close friends, we analysed that you definately need Psychiatric medications and close followup with a SHRINK ( ie a term used for Psychiatrist in USA)
Hey Atanu Chatarjee, you being a common indian, how would you know what happens behind the closed doors at govermental level specially to safeguard countrys sensitive national security information to the media.the Interpol chief visting pakistan is NEUTRAL entity, if he demands evidence dont argue,just give it to him. Some of the Indians looks similar in Physical appearnce to Pakistanis. That Khasab guy that they caught looks more like a brainwashed common local criminal from Calcutta, India really.The Indian Tv recording of language used by the other the terrorist sounded more like a mixture of hindi with Urdu with an accent similar to sikhs or an inhabitant from newdelhi.Nobody uses hindi words with such fluency in their conversation here in pakistan, infact its sometimes so hard to pickup certain words in an indian movie.Either way,lets move on, our arguments dont matter no more, these things are going to keep happening by crazy fanatics or goverment agencies from both sides regardless who, why etc did it, the fact of the matter is to maintain peace and diplomacy at all cost, for the sake of all of us and our future generations to come, that is the difference between dark ages and current civilized era.Remember the COLD war between USA and Russia from 1945-1981, but they never drew their guns out against each other, they always eventually mediated through 3rd parties in international arena because they knew one mistake from either side whatever reasons justifiable can destroy both countries for good and thats is exactly the same scenario now with these Southeastern strong military powers.Do you understand?
about 1 year ago
Well abdsly dumbo,
I wanted to see how far your peanut sized inteelect can debate. now I got my answer, a typical semi educated pakistani, nothing more.Thanks
about 1 year ago
Bye Shreiks, I have decided not to respond to your comments.Please spell check your comments.
about 1 year ago
No results found for semi educated:
Did you mean miseducated Shreiks??
about 1 year ago
Don’t know what will happen when India and Pakistan fight another war…but tell me the result of last 60 years…While India is considered one of the leading economies of world…Pakistan is a failed state…always begging for alms before USA….slightly better than Afghanistan…slightly worse than Iraq….Get real…Get sensible…Losers!
about 1 year ago
Niraj sinha, dont worry about results of 60 years.India leading economies of the world.But your poverty and living conditions are worst than pakistan.Where all that money is diverted? except Bollywood, the entire nation looks so filthy, overpopulated, poor health system, common people like you are in miserable conditions>once you reach atleast the level of any developed nation in Europe or even close to north America then its ok to pass these statements.Either way your opnion do not matter at all, reality of the fact is I agree we are the toughest neighbours to deal with in the last 60 years after china who swallowed 10% of your land forcibly in 1960s.So vent out as much as you can in these blogs as what else Indians can do.Nothing but keep living in a Fantasy.
about 1 year ago
First of all, i liked your style of writing although i see it from a completely different view-point and perspactive. But it sounds like if we continue from here the discussion would turn into argument. So i decide not to get deep into it as you are fully prevailed by the thought of nationalism as the whole pakistan is, and im not complaining that at the individual level because thats what the army is asking from its civilian govt as well as from its people. I just get the feeling that had Pakistan accepted the responsibility with sensitivity which Mr Zardari showed earlier, that would have created a feel-good environment amongst the people of both the countries. So i would say a big opportunity lost to move towards defeating the force of terrorism and move ahead to compete wuth the western world. Now we may have to counter this newly formed enemity for another few decades. I agree with you, a full-fledged war should be avoided for the good of both the countires. Although being in tough economic condition, and at the stage of bankruptcy, I doubt Pakistan would be able to fight this war with India if at all this happens.
Just for your information, if u’r kind of thinking/convinced that Qasab is from Kolkata(Calcutta as u mentioned), he would be speaking bengali, neither in hindi or in urdu with fluency, as being a bengali i know we are not fully conversed with Hindi/Urdu.
In another post you pointed out about over-population, filthyness, health care system etc of India. Well, problems are there, but if we compare the life of Indian middle-class with that of a decade earlier, a huge difference is noticeable. Indian middle-class doing extremely well today. People at mid-thrities are owning his own apartment & car which was pretty much unthinkable even few years back. However a job is not done yet. We need to spend a lot on infrastructure to improve public life system, control pollution, health care. We have a poor class who are not yet part of this economic upgradation. We need to pull them up to have the uniformity in the society and the govt & its people is working towards it. Its not an overnight process, would take time, but the wheel is moving in the right direction.
about 1 year ago
Thanks for your fair comments Mr A Chaterjee, you mentioned about wheel turning in the right direction for your middle class.The credit really goes to all hard working overseas Indiansin Middle eastern oil rich countries sending billions in foreign exchange to India for last 30 years.Plus Iam amazed with all the Indian comments, you guys are really naive in the sense that you are trying to dictate Pakistan that it should have behaved like that or this way,accept this, honor or commit to your demands, forgodsake man get real, we are ENEMY countries for last 60 years spending if Iam right both countries more than 80% of their budget towards defense instead of diverting all that revenues towards the comfort of common people like us.Why both countries buy every day such expensive sophisticated weapons to use against whom?.SOMETIMES I THINK THIS EXPENSIVE DEFENSE SPENDING SPREE all the time IS BENEFITTING 3rd party countries really more than our Indian and Pakistani citizens.So give peace a chance with all these unfortunate hurdles, need huge sacrifices and tolerance from all of us even with the existence of all these religious fanatics in both countries whose sole goal is create hatred, lets defeat them, talk (paki bashing) is cheap, need some real initiative from both sides of the border to resolve their differences ASAP.That is the reason I frequently visit Farukhs neutral blog and appreciate his realistic views.PEACE can be achieved amongst civilized nations through sincere dialogues without hidden selfish agendas.Long live Pakistan and hopefully we become good friendly neighbors whose cultural outlook is so similar as North and South Koreas by mutually respecting each others sovereignty and independence in future, amen.
about 1 year ago
I would agree that we spend significant amount of resource to guard the north-western borders. Buying modern-day arms definitely helping the selling country’s economy. Ideally one should channelise that resource onto the people as we have large pool of poor people who cant fullfill their basic needs day-in day-out. We have quite a bit of internal social-political issues. But at the moment the situation is far from ideal. Till the time the current tension gets defused the thought of reduction of defence budget would be bogged down. I would hope good sense & realization prevails onto the decision-makers & we move towards right direcion in this aspect.
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Appreciate the idea of peace & possible friendship. But theres a question mark at the moment. One can believe two legs, one hand, the heart of Pakistan but not the right hand. The right hand can slap on the face anytime. So one tends to be cautious. That right hand needs to be cured, a relationship of trust needs to be built. That would paves the way for friendship. And no doubt thats the way forward. We must not transfer the legacy of enemity to the next generation what our predecessors had done to us.
Another point. ‘The credit really goes to all hard working overseas Indiansin Middle eastern oil rich countries sending billions in foreign exchange to India for last 30 years’. This is incorrect. They might have had some contribution but the big chunk is being generated by indian service export industry. The selling of software & BPO service brings huge money. That creates the huge foreign currency reserves. Well, not as big as china has today by which they can possibly buy USA, but can purchase few countries at today’s valuation(no offence meant). More and more global companies starting their ventures in India. Creating jobs, increasing domestic consumption, which in turn developing an independent economy. Things are getting much more global than it ever was. Another good thing is more & more people, being employed by these MNCs, getting exposed to corporate governance, leaving the old-age ideas of superiority, egoism, hard-core communism, religious biasedness, hatred, narrowmindedness etc.
Happy New Year 2009. Lets smile a bit
about 1 year ago
Happy new year 2009, Mr Chaterjee and all our Indian neighbors, thanks to Farrukh for maintaining this wonderful blog where all ideas good or bad are exchanged on daily basis to create some consensus and understanding for the sake of peace, changing one mind at a time.
about 1 year ago
India was jumping on behalf of Israel & America, as & when these both realized the drama of Mumbai Shooting does not have SOUND FOOTED EVIDENCE their MOUTH PILES had been stopped.
about 1 year ago
What evidence would be more sound than DNA test of the alive terrorist qasab & his father at faridkot. His father owned qasab as his son. He was not under any torture as he was questioned by an independent pakistani journalist. Unfortunately Pakistan is trying to avert to be tagged with ‘Terrorist State’ if it’s proved that the perpretators are from Pakistan as that would bring in more sanctions and in the process not showing the willingness to act on the mumbai episode. But they need to understand that the accusition is against only some rogue criminal-minded people and not the whole country. Dont get fooled by your corrupt politicians/decision-makers as they might be having vested interest. When the same group of people attack pakistani establishments its you people who lose the fellow innocent countrymen. Please come out of old-age idea of protesting/refusing anything & everything that india does, (this can be said to indians also). If we continue to stick to the ground with no flexibility this enemity would not get dissolved in forseeable future.
about 8 months ago
#2 written by abdlsy
December 21, 2008 – 7:47 am
Yes Excellent & an Outstanding Observation this is true however it is free speech & too bad if they disagree with you —abdlsy— it is democracy the right to free speech & disagree.
*IOK = Indian Occupied Kashmir
*D. F. = Deny-Furz = Religious Duty
*Dharam Bharam = To destroy willfully
Mao Nawaz Baghioun Say Sanjida Muzakrat Hein Mumkin: Chidambaram-
ISI Ka *D. F. Indian Internal Insurgency Ko Rakhay Tar-o-Taza Garam Garam-
*IOK Pur Na Ho – “Tawaju” – Tu Indian Sakoon Bhee – Lazmi-*Dharam Bharam-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/india/2009/12/091223_maoists_india_zs.shtml