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Mumbai tragedy – A doable solution

Not a day has passed since the Mumbai terror attacks that Karachi has witnessed any peace. The locals essentially think that it is India’s way of punishing Pakistan for crimes that it probably didn’t commit. India, the conventional wisdom goes on, is after all a more powerful state. Meanwhile Indian Foreign Minister playing to the BJP and Sangh Parivar’s gallery is stoking fire by using very crude language like hinting that there exists a military option. Whether that option really exists or not is something that I’ll discuss later. However our Indian friends should not underestimate the public sentiment here too. The local neocons and the fundos have always argued that Pakistan in the end will have to fight a war with India. So they have developed quite a convincing argument in favor of an aggressive posture. While conceding that Pakistan has supported insurgency in Kashmir they also argue that India’s role in the provinces of Sindh and Balochistan have not exactly been too dovish. From arming Balochistan Liberation Army, Sindhi separatists often disguised as robbers, and support for the thugs of MQM India, they say, has done everything within its reach to dismember the badly burdened state, an idea which derives solace from on the record statements of Indian leaders since its very inception. Hence in their words defiance and proactive response remain the only option.
However if truth be told to a billion plus peace loving citizens of South Asia it will be the saddest day if the states of both sides succumb to the pressures of such Dr Strangeloves. The biggest worry, much more enormous than the prospects of a nuclear holocaust, is the damage this situation can do to democracy on both sides. The Pakistani democratically elected government is already under immense pressure. When the Prime Minister, reportedly consented to sending DG ISI to India, Qazi Hussain Ahmad, the head of the Jamaat-e-Islami, the party which has no representation in the parliament spat venom against Islamabad’s lack of hostility. Almost all parties later joined hands. At a time when President Zardari stated that there was complete consensus between the civil and the military command of the country, both of which he being the Commander in Chief of the Army himself represents, and a statement which could have hardly ever been made in an old democracy, another firebrand cleric Hafiz Hussain Ahmad of JUI-F Balochistan commented that there was no consensus whatsoever. India’s situation is no different. I can understand that the elected government is under severe pressure from the hardliners and their cohorts within the army to behave in a belligerent manner. As elections are pretty near in India one can understand the situation. However what to do? The problem is that if this sorry state of escalation and suspended animation continues incumbent on both sides will suffer badly. The problem with Pakistan is that the remnants of Musharraf regime will essentially cash the situation and harm democracy by dragging the country back to dictatorship. What to do then? Should both sides say tally ho and plunge into a nuclear conflict? I do not think that is an option. Again since people like Mukherjee are inspiring talk of a surgical strike, a limited war or a military option let me state it completely that a limited war or even a surgical strike will never remain just that. I know Indians are counting on the Americans or the Israelis to do what is known here as Asia 2025 and take out Pakistan’s nuclear assets before such a conflict but that too is a no brainer. First, let us talk of Israel. Let me tell you that Israel will never want to risk its chances of better relations with Pakistan. It is refreshing to know that Israel believes as many of us do that both countries do not pose threat to each other. In fact there is great potential of lasting relationship between the two states. So Israel will never do anything belligerent towards Pakistan. Now the United States agreed that we have come under aerial attacks on our western borders but there is no point of convergence between India’s targets and that of the US. In fact since General Petraeus’s posting as the head of the Centcom and the retaining of Bob Gates by Obama Administration neocons who could have supported such attacks have lost their leverage with the US military presence in the region for both the men are moderates and believe in statesmanship rather than the miscalculated application of brute force. Add to it the fact that Pakistan’s command and control system is very well managed. This means that the US and the nations of the world will pressure both sides not to start a war. Hence wake cousins there is no such thing as a military option. Remember that Pakistan is not Iraq and India is not the United States.
Let us then decide to resolve our problems with maturity. The problem with people like Mukherjee is that their limited gray matter never allows them to think like statesmen. He is no Nehru after all. That is precisely why he is continuously mismanaging the situation. The premature demand for twenty suspects, no heroes for me rest assured, smacks of hubris and a premature craving to act as a superpower. Not knowing that the world order has changed these guys are continuously alluding to the neocon ideologies. But let me tell you there is bigger trouble for people like me too who advocate reconciliation between the two South Asian twins.
I have been advocating for last seven years the importance of multilateralism, respect for the rule of law and that of the international law. The problem folks is that at the time of peace and in the presence of Musharraf both BJP or Congress I governments could have signed an extradition treaty between the two countries. As things stand now there does not exist any such treaty. As it so happens that an overwhelming majority of the names on the list are of Pakistani nationals not Indian. For a person who has always opposed Gitmo and Abu Ghareb it is possible to justify handing of Pakistani citizens to another country? I think not. Besides if these folks have ever been involved in any crimes against Pakistan’s neighbors they are criminals of Pakistan too. In such a volatile situation handing them to India would be viewed as a simple sell out by a weak democratic government and would seal the fate of democracy in the country. What are the other options then? Pakistan government has emphasized the activation of bilateral anti-terror mechanisms. That too in the current situation is unviable. The best, and perhaps the only, option then is that India with the help of the international community probes the matter and compiles the evidence. Then it can provide Pakistan the evidence with the diplomatic request to try the accused. Pakistan government then can ensure that the apex court’s full bench tries these element in open and transparent hearings and they are finally brought to the book. Killing of innocents is a crime and please rest assured that if these people have committed any crime, and I believe that if not this they must have committed at least a few others, they must be punished and mercilessly. This mechanism will strengthen institutions and the bilateral trust.
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about 1 year ago
Aren’t we dumb? And getting dumber?
about 1 year ago
I Can Clearly Smell the Anguish inside you. Sir Farrukh,Nothing Personal but You think India is Punishing Pakistan for something that it hasnot done!!! At this Moment i can only say tht even an Indian Child can give u enough Evidences of Pakistans Involvement.What Maturity are you Talking about..IS tht the Maturity… IF Pakistan Actually wants to See Peace between the Two NAtios Why doesnt PAKistan Take some Strict Actions? Instead of Giving FAlse Sympathy to itself that it was not involved Do asomething.. Pakistan is Alrteady on a Verge of BAnkruptcy…. HAve you Ever thought why isnt PAkistan Growing.. U wont think about tht Evevr.. But Only the Nuclear Power tht it has and it would Finally try to Frighten India With it….. Again No Offenses But Think BAout it rather Introspect!!!
about 1 year ago
Which Main? What Cross? You absolutely correct. This is sheer madness. And Megha please read my post above again. We are promising strict action. Give us proof.
about 1 year ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/bombay-tragedy-beware-of_b_147516.html
about 1 year ago
We are all for Unity. A human Race with no divide but that’s idealistic. There are some issues which are kept there to gain People’s vote. Pakistan Leader’s talking against India will gain them popularity. On the other Hand Indian Politicos will never speak against Pakistan strongly because they feel Muslim community here will stop voting them. This will further create anger amonst Hindus why are they afraid of speking the truth if it exists. Common people we believe are peace loving everywhere, but the problem with you guys is that you do not have the courage to speak against the hardliners or they will outcast you and treat you like a Traitor.
India in it’s entir history has never attacked any nation on it’s own, and this is taken as a weakness. But now in this case the common man has woken up and if Pak government instead of acting out of presuure and doing things does it on a moral base things can improve.
about 1 year ago
Dear Sir Farrukh,
Wait for 2-3 days more and India would share the Evidences…. And i would desperately wait for Your Reply… Don’t u think u actually dont want to Agree that those were Pakistanis…Today Mr. Zaradri says that they were Stateless Actors ??? Moreover, Pakistan would not even Hand over the Terrorists??? Why? They have done Something to India and the Trial would take place in Pakistan ? and i am Sure the Government would nt do anything about it… MAy be I ll Ask u that question one day.Sir, I have no Clue about you, your profession. I wanted to see some of the Pak’s Blogs when i found yours. and i M Am too Younger to u But I dont Agree to watever Paks Claims…
A True Indian…..
about 1 year ago
Dear Mr.Pitafi!
Good to see your writings on your blog.Yours is a pacifist voice and it is heartening to see that such voices do exist,especially when the two sides are heaping accusations on each other.I do not know whether these opinions come from your soul or you play the neutral journalist’s role as part of your professional role.Can you truly vouch that these ideas you espouse concur with your thoughts?
The Truth is all that matters.Even if you build up a facade,playing the liberal and pacifist journalist,time will tell if your Thought,Word & Deed match.If they do,all the Good luck to you.If they dont,your conscience will tell you where you have gone wrong.I tell you this since your blogs always come to this:-1.Pakistan is in a bad shape as they have villians in their midst.2.But India is not so holy as they have blood on their hands too.3.Now its time to talk peace.
Karma is 100% perfect.Newtons third law of motion says that For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.What Pakistan has done,it will suffer the consequences of its actions,what India has done,it will suffer its own consequences.
Leaving Karma or fate apart,what is that we have to do?Our actions carry consequences too.You cant write platitudes while having intentions of another sort raging inside you.Even if you do,the farce wont last long.
Now lets watch what Karma has in store for the two countries and also do our duties truthfully.
Good Luck and all the Best!
about 1 year ago
Hello,
Well i read the article its sounds pretty gud fr reading but we need sm reality check here.
See pakistan always helped the extremists let it in the form of military or any other ways..Please check out sm pakistani so called experts talking tht the whole scene was created by india ..just the way US did 9-11..i pity those people and all who posted comment saying yes(n that no. is huge).Its time fr pakistanis to hv an introspection abt their own nation.India never provoked anythng tht hv caused disharmony..u hv exports cmng here..if we stop the trade think abt the losses ur economy vl have..its always been pak who attaked india( n i m proud to say got bashed big time)..the way pakistani so called intelligent experts are defending themselves it sounds pur jealousy n nothng else..If ur govt is “SO KEEN” on eliminating terrorism..Dawood wud nt be wandering freely in karachi getting invited fr special lunch n dinners..We r nt loosing nethng tk a look at the state of ur own nation..may be nt everybdy wants watever is happening..bt people do nod their heads in positive (n sadly in a happy manner) when these thngs happen to india.N why shud India think twice talking abt military option..did u ask us when u posed Kargil war on us? Same thng with Kashmir..don’t u think its time fr Pakistan to look to hv sm progress in economy than increasing nuclear n military base? Ask ur intelligent leaders to get life n let the good people in pakistan hv their own gud life too.Only talking useless acusitions r nt goin to help pakistan coz we are nt loosing nethng here..mind it..
Watch this and plz comment:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Eij5o7XizIA&feature=related
about 1 year ago
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/DawnContentLibrary/dawn/news/world/mcconnell-blames-let-for-attacks–il
about 1 year ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jSPsDoHurrCufr_XZlVIqW90ULoQ
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/mcconnell-blames-let-for-attacks–il
about 1 year ago
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/mcconnell-blames-let-for-attacks–il
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jSPsDoHurrCufr_XZlVIqW90ULoQ
about 1 year ago
Two very good articles:
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne061208sikand.asp
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne061208rohan_gun.asp
about 1 year ago
thanks for uniting india….watch the unity marches on your TV in my delhi my mumbai my bangalore and my calcutta
about 1 year ago
a take from The Dawn’s Irfan Hussain,the truth
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm
about 1 year ago
Dear Farrukh Sir,
Having gone through your blog, I sincerely feel there lies a huge problem because of false propaganda and therefore mis-communication.
As many others have also written, there’s no point living in self denial-That there are no extremists in Pakistan, that they are not being funded, nourished and groomed within Pakistan. True Many Indians also need to come out of the self denial that there can not be any extremists within Hindus.
Issue however is quantum of problem. Do you really feel Hindu extremism is as grave as Islamist Extremism in their respective present forms?
Do you really have any right to talk about plight of Muslims in India when Hindus in Pakistan live in such abject condition? Babri demolition was a blunder but who has accounted for hundreds of temples being razed in Pakistan?
Let me also tell you, Indians in general never had any problem with non-hardliner, peace loving Muslims. If APJ Kalam were to stand for elections, he will win with thumping majority from anywhere in India since Hindus as well as Muslims look up to him as a symbol of intelligence and humanity. Show me one example of anyone maligning Kalam in India, including RSS/BJP!!
Put your hand to heart and tell me, can you say the same for Hindus in India?
Please do not take any posturing for the sake of it and tell me few names including a fashion designer in Karachi and a flim distributor who was killed recently. If you sincerely think Hindus are treated well, I am fine.
Yes, there’s a lot better that we can do for minorities here in India too. Gujarat was a shame and BJP/Modi will pay for it also but he is more of an exception than rule. People forget that he was not voted to power because he is communal but because he has indeed developed his State in an unprecedented manner. He is guilty nonetheless.
Sir, do you, honestly, feel that Dawood id not in Pakistan? Do you really feel he is a saint? Why repeat the offcial lines, especially when you claim to write objectively!!??
Please remember, you can not resolve a problem unless you accept it and mind you, history has proved that terrorism does more harm to its point of origin than what it has been targeted at.
Khuda Hafiz
about 1 year ago
Rahul, I like rational people and after a truckload of hate mail finally I find a person who is open to reason. Thank you very much for coming here and its a pleasure. As a principle I do not talk too often about India communally. Personally I believe that secularism is a great ideal and India certainly is an excellent example of institutionalized secularism. Again if you want to know my track record on Pakistani minorities you can always come here and ask anyone. Or I can provide you with the dvds of my shows and you can see for yourself. Perhaps I am the only Pakistani journalist who argued that Justice Bhagwan Das should be made the President of Pakistan. I do agree that Pakistan has an extremist problem and believe me we are fighting them for last six years very strongly. It is my understanding that the extremists here are not strong enough to mount an attack on India. Yes they can kill us here and we are ready to face that risk.
Yet let us not pretend that India does not have an extremist problem. It is wise then to start blaming Pakistan from the word go? I think not. India should have taken time to investigate and then come to Pakistan for support not cooperation. Yes language matters. The cold war mentality or neocon language does not help democracy in Pakistan. Pakistan is a sovereign state after all and if it did not mount the attacks it should not have been blamed. Again Pakistan is not a ventilation channel for Indian grief. Ask us for our help and we are at your service, try to bully us and we fight you. This is not my view but the public sentiment. India needs to act responsibly.Believe me no one is happy in Pakistan to see Indians being butchered in Mumbai. First of all you have to convince yourself that we are not loonies wanted your destruction. We want to coexist. Give us reason to sympathize with you rather than driving us the wall. And this is the deficit of your Foreign Minister that instead of behaving like the chief diplomat of your country he is sounding like a warmonger.
about 1 year ago
Farrukh,
I dont know y r u so dumb n not able to see the things clearly.Just wait 4 the day when India gives the evidence.We already got many evidences against Pak.Will give u soon..I am curious to see Pak response.Atleast that time Pak should act sensibly.
Please live n let us live.
about 1 year ago
India did good job by allowing FBI team 4 investigation.Let USA know the real colour of Pak.
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Farrukh,
I love to chat th u after that.U people r always famous for giving slippery reasons.I know u again come up th some logics and reasons. But truth is truth. Better 4 u to understand it soon …good luck
about 1 year ago
Sudnnon, I think too that the involvement of the FBI team is good news. The purpose of this remains to reach people behind this incident which in any case was a heinous crime. The problem with you guys is that you are so angry (and I don’t blame you for the pain must be immense) that you want to jump the gun. There is a logical system to fight crime. Justice is when an accused criminal is given the right to defend himself in a court of law. We Pakistanis are waiting for the proof. Believe me that no one here except for a thin fanatic minority rejoices the breakup of law and order in any country including India. If there is evidence and I believe that your own government claims that it is still investigating, why won’t we be helping you guys. The future of us all depends on how we perceive ourselves and believe me there is no room in future for narrow national or communal prejudices. We all are one civilization after all, the human civilization.
about 1 year ago
Dear Farrukh Sir,
Many Thanks for this balanced piece of writing. It was indeed heartening to see your response.
I do agree partially, if not entirely, to the views you have put forth on the reactions emanating from India in the aftermath of Mumbai Carnage.
As for other points like the ability to mount attacks , I leave it to your wisdom to judge.
Well, as for aggressive postures, please appreciate that India has seen more terror attacks in last one year than even in Iraq, a total of 48 attacks claiming more than 700 innocent lives including women and children. The whole country is seething with anger, mostly directed at politicians. With such incriminating evidence (you have right to question that) emerging that these groups indeed operated from Pakistan, is it not fair to expect that you crush such groups with all your might? Aggressive tone also because these groups are widely known to collect funds and recruit people for anti India Jihad. Why wait for them to massacre 200 innocents and then ask for evidence? My whole point is that these groups operating today against India are as much dangerous for otherwise liberal society of Pakistan, why even ignore if not encourage such elements? Who killed Benazir Bhutto? Who twice mounted murderous attacks on gen. musharraf?
There’s no question of aggressive tone if your government indeed decided to act tough. We respect your sovereignty and no one intends to bully your country. We only want Perpetrators of this heinous crime to be brought to justice. Why should India be accused, in this hour of tragedy, to stage a drama, when not only Indian but US (you may question that also) intelligence sources are equally sure of this being an LeT Operation. LeT is banned but operates under Jamaatud Dawa now?? Is hafiz saeed not in Pakistan? Does it not spew venom against India? Does it not have terror training camps in muzaffarabad? Are you sure LeT, in long run, will let liberals like you and me to sleep in peace even if you are a muslim but liberal?
I only wish we had more people like you in respective countries who at-least reason and argue rather than hate and rant.
Best Regards
about 1 year ago
Rahul, I agree that the hate mongers should not given any room to thrive. I partly agree on LeT and Dawa, but tell me do such elements not exist in India too? Have you seen movie Dil Hai Hindustani? Have you seen Main hoon na? Can you swear that in no Bajrang Dal or RSS meet Pakistan bashing takes place? I think that would be tantamount to stretching the truth to its breaking point. Such weirdos exist on both sides of the divide. I have never blamed India for whatever takes place in the name of terror. Col Purohit is not to me an agent of state but a sign of a disease. No state wants to kill its people, India being an institutionalized democracy would hardly be accused of that. But please understand that investigation is the most important thing. I promise you that if anything is found out severe action will be taken on people who sponsor terror. But beyond that we both have to fight evil that exists on our side of the border. Nice talking to you.
about 1 year ago
i think you first need to tell imbeciles like zaid hamid and others who are touting the episode to be a conpiracy by the indian govt. to kill its own people. he even says that westerners were in on the plot too and that india has staged a ‘drama’. seriosly, if this is the kind of msg that your citizens are getting from the media, it is small wonder that you guys are brainwashed to oppose india. you claim to be a journalist and a media person. why not take the smallest step in your ‘cooperative measures’ and put down these retards in your media.
about 1 year ago
citizens of india lit candles in their cities and are having peace rallies against terrorism.
citizens of islamabad (chiefly islamist students) conducted an anti-india protest march and burnt the indian flag.
i think this sums up the mentality and culture of the two countries.
good luck to you. i sincerely wish you were settled elsewhere for having a happier life living amidst friendlier saner people.
about 1 year ago
israel has no problems with paki nukes?????????????????????? after AQ khan nuke superbazaar network!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! amazing!!!!!!!!! soooooo delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
about 1 year ago
NEW YORK: Former Pakistani army officials trained the terrorists who went on rampage last week in Mumbai, The New York Times said on Wednesday
quoting unnamed Pentagon officials. ( Watch )
“A former Defense Department official said on Wednesday that American intelligence agencies had determined that former officers from Pakistan’s Army and its powerful Inter-Services Intelligence agency helped train the Mumbai attackers,” The New York Times said in its news report from Washington.
“But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that no specific links had been uncovered yet between the terrorists and Pakistani government,” it said, without providing any further details.
Pakistan has so far refuted Indian allegations, supported by the US, of having harbored these terrorists, who killed 183 people, several of whom were foreign nationals, and claimed that they are non-state actors.
The revelations by a former Defence Department official comes at a time when India has said that it has strong evidence and intelligence information that indicates the Mumbai attackers and their trainers came from Pakistan. It has also asked Pakistan to arrest and send to it 20 people wanted in India for terrorist activities. Pakistan has said that it would not extradite terror suspects.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who was in New Delhi on Wednesday to demonstrate American support to India, urged Pakistan to take on terrorists within its borders.
“We believe Pakistan has a central role to play in this, to make certain that these terrorists cannot continue to operate and operate in this fashion,” Rice said in New Delhi.
about 1 year ago
WASHINGTON: The United States has set the stage for punitive internationally-backed strikes by India against terrorist camps in Pakistan, if
Islamabad does not act first to dismantle them, by rejecting President Zardari’s alibi that non-state actors were responsible for the last week’s carnage in Mumbai.
The game-changer, outlined by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, among others, robs Islamabad of the fig leaf that Zardari used in his interview on Larry King Live that ”stateless actors” are holding the whole world hostage and Pakistan was not to blame. Rice said in effect that the excuse does not absolve Pakistan responsibility for terrorist acts that originate from its territory.
Although US officials have not outright approved immediate punitive Indian strikes against terrorist targets in Pakistan, it is clear Rice has bought time for Islamabad to prove its bonafides and promise of cooperation. Pakistan has a ”special responsibility” and needs to act ”urgently” she said, even as India has indicated it will wait for a Pakistani response to its demands before any punitive action.
In Washington, experts pressed the administration to expand the scope of punitive strikes to an international level to avoid making it an India-Pakistan issue, particularly since the death toll included citizens of 10 countries.
”Rather than simply begging the Indians to show restraint, a better option could be to internationalise the response. Have the international community declare that parts of Pakistan have become ungovernable and a menace to international security,” Robert Kagan, an influential analyst with the Carnegie Endowment, said.
”Would such an action (strikes) violate Pakistan’s sovereignty?” Kagan asked in an op-ed, and answered, ”Yes, but nations should not be able to claim sovereign rights when they cannot control territory from which terrorist attacks are launched.”
Rice echoed this outlook more discreetly and cautiously.
Pakistan’s civilian government has sought to portray its helplessness in governing its own territory. In fact, in a startling slip noted by the Economist, Zardari said in a television interview last week that ”if any evidence points towards any individual or group in MY PART OF THE COUNTRY,” he would take action. The implication, it said, was Pakistan was already severed if with parts of the country out of federal control.
While US position towards Pakistan has hardened perceptibly after the Mumbai attack, Indian officials are still leery about Washington’s approach. The hard part to swallow for New Delhi is that the Bush administration, while pushing for a strategic relationship with India, has bankrolled what some are already dubbing a terrorist state to the tune of $ 10 billion since 2002. Most of the money, according to the US government’s own audit, has gone towards building Pakistan’s military muscle against India.
On Tuesday, even as Rice counselled patience and restraint in New Delhi, India’s Foreign Secretary Shiv Shankar Menon made the rounds in Washington, explaining India’s position and the growing anger across the country after Pakistan’s latest provocation.
Menon packed more than a dozen meetings, including with former intelligence czar and Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte, Under Secretary of State William Burns, House speaker Nancy Pelosi and several top lawmakers as Washington struggled to contain Indian outrage. New Delhi’s message was uniform: India’s patience is wearing thin.
The Indian Embassy said later that ”unequivocal condemnation of the (Mumbai) incident and the need for the perpetrators to be held accountable was reiterated,” at the meetings. It was also indicated that there would be full cooperation and support at various levels, including government, from the US to India as it dealt with the consequences of the incident, it added.
From all accounts, India too appears to be preparing ground for punitive action if Pakistan fails to respond and act adequately.
Rice will proceed to Islamabad on Thursday to read the riot act while U.S Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen is expected to arrive in New Delhi as part of U.S playbook to keep a stream of visitors in the region in order to prevent outbreak of immediate hostilities.
about 1 year ago
Close on the heels of Mumbai’s Muslim Council refusing burial space to the Pakistani terrorists killed in the Mumbai attacks, a group of
imams here has come out strongly against the attacks and asked the Muslim community to wear a black ribbon on Bakr-Eid as an expresion of solidarity with those killed in the outrage.
The imams, under the banner of All India Organisation of Imams of Mosques, called for subdued Eid-ul-Azha (Bakr-Eid) festivities across the country, scheduled for Tuesday.
The imams described the Mumbai carnage as an attack on the nation, as it appealed to all the mosques, muftis and madrasas to reiterate in this week’s Friday prayers that Islam forbids the killing of innocent people and is against any form of terrorism.
“We are deeply aggrieved by the loss of human lives and especially by the brutal killing of Jews,” they said in a statement.
“We have to think above caste, class, region and religion. It’s an attack on India and all true Indians should come forward and salute the martyrs who sacrificed their lives for the sake of the country,” it said.
Prominent clerics from both Shia and Sunni sects on Wednesday called for decisive action against Pakistan. A joint communique signed by Maulana Khalid Rasheed Firangimahali, the naib Imam of Idgah, Maulana Mohammad Mushtaq, president of All India Sunni Board and Maulana Naimurrehman, president of the Ulema Council of India, demanded firm action against terrorists in order to restore faith of people in effective governance
about 1 year ago
Indian agencies tracing the source of the email sent by an outfit calling itself Deccan Mujahideen to a TV channel claiming
responsibility for the terror attacks on Mumbai have found that the text was routed through Lahore in Pakistan before travelling to different locations through anonymous “remailer” service.
Though other locations are yet to be traced, the experts — who took help of different foreign agencies — found that the terrorists used a Russian server to avail the remailer service which is the most secure and least traceable way to send emails.
An official said the text document sent by the hitherto unknown Deccan Mujahideen was generated using voice-recognition software which allows dictated text to be typed in Devnagri script.
Contrary to the normal Internet service which can easily trace the origin of an email through IP address of a particular computer, the remailer service not only deletes IP address but also all details including the sources from where someone might have requested for the secret service.
“There are a number of software available for the remailer service that lets one send anonymous email easily through a web interface. Some others make it really easy to send email messages that can only be viewed for a certain time and one can remain anonymous to boot,” an official said.
In the wake of terror attacks on earlier occasions, Indian Mujahideen — a splinter group of the banned SIMI — had sent as many as five emails written in English. While the first two, after serial blasts in UP courts and Jaipur, were sent from cyber cafes in Delhi and Sahibabad respectively, the remaining ones had been sent using Wi-Fi system from Mumbai after serial blasts in Ahmedabad and Delhi.
“Origin of all these emails were traced within hours through the IP addresses. But this time, the terrorists made the task of the cops tough due to use of remailer service,” the official said.
Investigators believe that the terror masterminds might have done this knowing the fate of earlier emails — yet another pointer of their being associated at some level even though the earlier strikes had been carried out by locals in the name of IM.
about 1 year ago
The audacious nature of the attacks and the manner in which they were executed has made Mumbai’s terror sites the learning ground for Smoke emits from the Taj Mahal Hotel in Mumbai. The 60-hour rampage through India’s financial capital by militants that killed more than 170 people ended on Saturday. (AP Photo)
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security and police agencies across the globe.
Even before Maharashtra police visited Leopold Cafe, the popular watering hole where the terror attacks started, a secret Australian service police agency was there. Owner of the Colaba cafe Farhang Jehani confirmed that a police agency from Australia questioned him about Wednesday night’s attacks and examined the site.
The six-member team from Down Under including a woman visited the restaurant around 4pm before heading out to the Taj. Dressed in casual civilian clothes and accompanied by an Indian officer who acted as a mediator, the team inspected the cafe and surrounding vicinity.
“We are from the Australian secret police service, but we are not permitted to talk to the media,” one of the members of the team told TOI when asked about the purpose of the visit. Two Australian nationals were among those killed in the attacks — Douglas Markelo and Brett Taylor.
According to sources in a consulate, the nature of the attacks — using youths to storm five-star hotels — was a reason for governments across the world to send teams to probe and understand the unique “signature trail” left behind by the terrorists.
Apart from the Australians, the city played host to a seven-member team of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) which arrived on Sunday and spent the day in discussions with the director general of police, the city police commissioner and other senior officials of the crime branch. It is believed that the FBI is interested in examining forensic evidence including remnants of explosives gathered from the sites to assess the methodology used by the fidayeens.
Israeli security agencies were also busy in the city on Monday; they held discussions with senior police officials. The Israeli agencies are said to have offered assistance in the rescue operations against the terrorists, which, sources said, was turned down by the Indian authorities. After the three-day-long operation ended, a forensic team from Israel, a source said, reached the city to help identify the Israelis killed at Nariman House. Among foreigners slain in the attack, a large number were Israelis — five of them were killed at Nariman House and four others were shot dead at Taj and Oberoi hotels.
A rapid deployment team from Britain too was in the city debriefing UK nationals who survived the attack, taking detailed notes from them. The British Deputy High Commission spokesperson, however, said this team was sent to help British citizens return home safely.
about 1 year ago
Very well written Rahul. Farrukh, i do not think pakistan will do anything even if evidence is provided given its past record. It will say that the evidence is not enough. Even in a well planned homicide, the killer leaves some clues. This is an open carnage, and the evidence of pakistani terrorists is overwhelming. I do not why pakistan lives in self denial. Its good that FBI is also getting involved. That some pakistani elements are involved in the mumbai attack will soon be evident to the whole world.
I agree with what you say about hindu extremists. I am ashamed at some of the excesses committed by VHP/Bajrang Dal and people like purohit who believe that avenging deaths of innocent hindus is by killing innocent muslims should be hanged.
But as Rahul rightly said the difference between the hindu terrorits and islamic terrorits is the amount of terror they involve in. This mumbai attack is taking terror to despicable levels.
about 1 year ago
I am a Kashmiri Pandit, so if you see a bias here, I hope you understand. The blasts are not new, right and such acts in India or Pakistan are not new. Sane government would have a joint action plan against this menace. So this is what I feel both the governments should do:
1. Identify root cause – Kashmir, fundamentalism, economy, education, lack of trust
2. Kashmir – Long term problem, no near solution (I am being realistic)
3. Fundamentalism – Problem which can looked into. Drive out such people from both sides. Ostracize them. Pick a few and make examples. Hard examples.
4. Build the trust – Pakistan to hand over Dawood and other hijackers and those twenty people on the list. Just imagine the love of 1 billion people and so many deaths on the borders can be avoided. And question Paksitan has to ask itself is – what are these people contributing to its economy. Handing over essentially because these people were involved in cross border terrorism. On the other hand, India to open door of opportunities and technologies in Pakistan. Create schools, colleges and other developing infrastructure.
5. Education – First step – educate the politicians – I think literacy has not touched them thus far. Then start from the rural areas and adding job opportunities for the grown-ups.
I am sorry for writing in bullets as I am used to such writing in my job. But just these steps will ensure there are no Mumbai attacks and Marriot blasts.
about 1 year ago
Dear Farrukh,
Few points to consider.
1)Col Purohit is being investigated in this country.Can you tell me the name of one accused terrorist who is being investigated in pakistan.I will be happy to hear of any worthwhile names being tried.
2)If any Indian commits an act of violence in India,that is within the confines of our sovereign state.Terrorism across borders is a definite NO NO in today’s world order.As long as you have terror groups within Pakistan who are not being found guilty for crimes across borders there is no reason for anyone to accuse Pakistan.
3)Denying Facts does not mean that these events did not happen.Beyond a certain point evidence will not help as evidence is demanded if there is a will to accept reality if it incriminates.
4)Nobody in India wants a destabilised Pakistan.Why is there fear factor in Pakistan?
5)There is no such thing as stateless actors.Who is zardari trying to fool?Himself?
6)Pakistan is viewed with suspicion not only by India,but by all other countries as well.What did Pakistan do wrong?
7) We don’t wish pakistan any ill will.Why can pakistanis not wish the same for humanity?
These are points to ponder.Please do not consider this as anything sacrosanct.You are free to have your own views.But if there is some light in the heart,it will help the future generations of this subcontinent,moshe and oxana included.
about 1 year ago
Mr. Farrukh, i notice that you reply only to comments that are either openly hateful or meaningless. Some of the comments raise valid and poignant issues which you conveniently choose to not respond to. Would appreciate if you acknowledged them and be gentlemanly in admitting certain lacunae where they are evident. There is no shame in accepting a mistake
about 1 year ago
YOU GUYS WILL BE AMAZED WITH MY COMMENTS, I feel at peace and happy writing all possible aspects.My comment is specially for Sheikh or whatever his name is, SURGICAL STRIKES, what happened to that massive Indian buildup in 2002 on Pakistani border I ask, NOTHING, so forget about that option, it is not 1971, Pakistan air force have planes that can reach many Indian cities and long range missiles just like India .Plus China and USA are definitely not interested in what you want.Lets forget this surgical strike option, same as 2002, when you withdrew eventually.Lets talk peace through dialogue, that’s the only way out. Think PEACE, maturity etc for sake of us and our future generations .Please do not blame the entire Pakistan for that quote unquote VIRTUAL Pakistani terrorists involvement.You never acted as mother Teresa to us in last 60 years, so don’t expect us to be suddenly saints to us.It will take sometime to build trusts between the 2 countries, and radicals from both sides will try hard to destroy this union of brotherhood if ever it happens.You guys talk about India as if it is a superpower like USA or other countries, I was amazed to hear that it took 10 hours for special units to reach Mumbai to stabilize the situation.What kind of Intelligence exists.Plus I was shocked, with all the Capital you guys talk that India has, what I saw was Mumbo police carrying those dinosaur era Rifles, no SWAT team unbelivable.Do any of you are intellectuals here, have you read history of partition, Indian land was a heaven with complete infrastructure built up by the British raaj, we got only Punjab, rest of the provinces were barren lands, nothing. But look at Pakistan now, what a difference and huge infrastructure. I give 100% credit to Pakistan armed forces that made us proud by defending our borders from a mega country like India who always had bad intentions of taking over our country .India was 100% involved in making Bangladesh.So how the trust will come and when, so wake up and smell the coffee, all of you.How can you stop these radicals, which exist both sides of the border, if USA with all its superior might could not control it, how can Pakistan do it overnight. How come you cannot control with your full strength your Kashmir and 13 separatist movements.Give evidence against these bad individuals, so they can be tried in Pakistan and if found guilty, hanged.Like minded educated people in both side of the border should think logical, lets fix both countries by building universities, cross cultural dialogues, trade etc as we are same breed and both side religions promote 100% brotherhood.But it will not happen overnight.All of you Indian nationals talking very highly of India, comparing to what country Haiti or better than Srilanka, don’t even compare your technology with USA or even Europe.You have same heavy duty corrupted individuals as Pakistan, filthy sewerage, garbage behind high rises, crowded yucky alleys with smell of human urine and miserable living conditions for citizens of both side of the border, just eat daal, fart eat curry and go home and make few more babies to create a population explosion. Many of you right now must be powerless and miserable in your lives by living in a 3rd world country but feel proud to vent all out on this sophisticated kind blog of farrukh, enjoy but what is you were saying is all crap away from REALITY as all of us have ZERO clue what’s going on right now, so wake up Indians.But all of you are still lucky to have this access to Internet as you are still better than a common Indian. I mean both countries are so far behind that we still have power outages and I feel bad we have such a big transportation problem, in this day and age majority of common people in other developed nations have a nice comfy car, and all of us ride motorcycle wow.It just amazes me how confident we talk, these westerners must really be laughing hard at us really with our sewerage mentality after all that education.Existence of Few billionaires in India does not solve the problem of a common man .Corrupt Politicians just like we have in Pakistan, hunger, preventable infectious diseases due to overflowing sewerage, a silent epidemic of AIDS.So slow down guys, all of you including Pakistanis sure are pathetically helpless in this unfolding drama of Brutality.Long live Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad.
about 1 year ago
PLEASE DO READ, ARCHIVES FROM BBC,CAN INDIA FULLY CONTROL THE FOLLOWING, DO YOU WANT TO BLAME PAKISTAN FOR THE FOLLOWING GOING ON IN INDIA READ: ARE WE BLAMING INDIA FOR ALL THE UNREST IN KARACHI? THANK GOD for PARTITION AND INDEPENDENT PAKISTAN
1) A bomb has exploded in a passenger train in India’s north-eastern state of Assam, killing at least three people.
Assam police chief GM Srivastava told the BBC that 30 other passengers had been injured, some of them seriously.
2) There has been a major security alert at Delhi’s main international airport.
The BBC initially quoted an incorrect claim from an airport worker that six people had been shot and killed at Indira Gandhi International Airport.
3)Organisations representing Bodo and Adivasi tribes people in India’s troubled north-eastern state of Assam are heading towards a showdown.
They have both been threatening the state’s beleaguered coalition government with “dire consequences” unless it addresses their differing political interests.
4)At least 48 people have died in a series of attacks across the states of Nagaland and Assam in north-east India.
Two bombs exploded in the main commercial centre of Dimapur town in Nagaland – one at a train station and another at a local market.
At least 28 people were killed and more than 100 injured in the morning blasts
5)Separatists in Nagaland, Mizoram, Manipur and Assam have tapped into these differences and been able to challenge the control of the Indian state.
The central government has used military force to quell these rebellions, which in turn has often provoked more violence.
6)At least 50 train passengers have been injured in attacks by armed mobs in the northern Indian state of Bihar.
The youths were protesting over alleged discrimination against Biharis who had tried for jobs with Indian Railways in the neighbouring state of Assam.
7)
By Subir Bhaumik
BBC correspondent in Calcutta
Unidentified gunmen have attacked two hideouts used by separatist fighters from north-eastern India in the Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan in the past 24 hours.
8)In these parts,Madhya Pradesh, more and more children like Richa are “falling silent” because of diseases associated with malnutrition and hunger.
But their deaths remain cold statistics; they largely escape the attention of political parties battling to win the upcoming state elections.
Groups like the Right to Food Campaign insist that malnutrition is chronic in vast swathes of Madhya Pradesh.
Some 325 children, they say, have died of diarrhoea, measles and acute respiratory distress – diseases typically associated with severe malnutrition – in just four districts between May and October this year.
More worryingly, they say, the government is in complete denial.
9)Twelve Indian states have “alarming” levels of hunger while the situation is “extremely alarming” in the state of Madhya Pradesh, says a new report.
Madhya Pradesh’s nutrition problems, it says, are comparable to the African countries of Ethiopia and Chad.
India has more people suffering hunger – a figure above 200 million – than any other country in the world, it says.
The report, released as part of the 2008 Global Hunger Index, ranks India at 66 out 88 countries.
10)HIV is ‘out of control’ in India
It is claimed that Aids is chiefly spread among sex workers
A senior Aids expert has warned that HIV in India is “out of control”.
The executive director of the Global Fund to Fight Aids said that the epidemic in India is spreading rapidly and nothing is being done to stop it.
Richard Feachem warned that India has overtaken South Africa as the country with the most HIV positive patients.
He warned that the epidemic has spread so quickly that India needed to “wake up” and take the problem seriously, otherwise millions of people will die.
11)By Kumar Malhotra
BBC News
Not everyone in India faces a bright future
Every now and then, India gets a stark reminder that the feel good factor created by high growth rates in recent years eludes millions of its people.
One came earlier this month when Unicef said that India had some of the worst rates of child survival in the world. In 2006, 2.5 million children under five died in India and China, of whom 2.1 million were in India.
12)For the first 45 years after independence, economic growth and development in India was poor. One explanation, known as ‘The Hindu rate of growth’ argued that Indian culture prevented it developing in the way other nations did. In reality, India’s vibrant entrepreneurial culture was stifled by restrictive economic policies that seriously undermined development. Recent reforms have injected a new sense of life into India’s sluggish economy. Gordon Corera reports.
13)Police in the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh have arrested around 150 hardline Hindu activists for allegedly forcing their way into a disputed religious monument.
President Kalam urged restraint on both sides
Firing tear gas, police managed to repel up to 500 others when they tried to force their way in.
The incident happened in an area called Bhojshala, in the state’s Dhar district, about 100 miles south-west of the capital Bhopal.
The Hindu mob tried to rush to the site after an announcement by the group, Hindu Jagran Manch, that it intended to enter the disputed structure.
Both Hindus and Muslims claim the 11th century monument as their own.
14)By Ram Kripal Singh
Senior editor, Navbharat Times
Ten years after the destruction of the Babri mosque, we can ponder the gains and losses as much as we want.
But to my mind we gained nothing – but lost a lot.
When other Asian nations are busy building their future, we are embroiled in… disputes over mosques and temples.
All of us suffered losses: the nation, the people and the political parties.
The journey which began at that time to enhance India’s Hindu identity reached a terrible climax in Gujarat state earlier this year.
Everyone is a loser in this journey from Ayodhya to Gujarat.
15)The Baglihar dam and hydro-electric power project is being built by India over the Chenab river that flows from Indian-administered Kashmir into Pakistan.
If India is not ready to demonstrate a spirit of accommodation for an issue which is very clear… how are they going to solve much harder issues like Kashmir?
Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesman Masood Khan
Islamabad says the dam will obstruct the flow of water into Pakistan.
It says the project violates a deal brokered by the World Bank in 1960 for sharing river water between the two countries.
16)At least eight people have been killed and up to 22 injured in a bomb explosion in the Pakistani city of Karachi.
Eyewitnesses say there was a huge explosion as the bomb went off on Arambagh road in the centre of the city at 1900 local time (1400 GMT). But the governor of Sindh province, Mohamed Azim Daud Pota, has accused the Indian intelligence agency, Raw (Research and Analysis Wing), of being behind this latest attack.
17) now the time for “a decisive fight” against Pakistan, a country which he said was fighting a proxy war against India in Kashmir.
There is all sorts of speculation about a possible Indian punitive strike against bases from which militants prepare for operations across the Line of Control in Indian-administered territory.
But while the political pressures for action are strong, India’s military options are probably limited.strategic debate inside India which suggests that its military options may be limited.
Some strategic commentators have dismissed India’s massive movement of troops and tanks to forward bases as a strategically irrelevant step, reminiscent of the mass European mobilisations of 1914.
One Indian think-tank has described this forward deployment as “the act of an outdated armed force, desperately thrashing about in the only way it knows”.By Mukul Devichand
BBC Radio 4′s Crossing Continents
Dharavi is a bustling hive of activity and commerce
Mukesh Mehta wears a crisp shirt and tie as he picks his way past makeshift shacks and stinking open gutters in Dharavi, Asia’s largest slum.
Dharavi is a dense labyrinth of dirt roads in the centre of India’s biggest and most economically important city, Mumbai (Bombay).
By Kaushik Basu
Professor of economics, Cornell University
The aim is to provide the children additional skills
Anandan is an unusual teaching institution in Calcutta. It aims to provide all-round, supplementary education to very poor slum children.
It was started in 1999 by a group of middle-class housewives, among them my sister. They did a survey of slums near their homes, were dismayed by the poverty and paucity of education the children received and so they started out with 10 students and one teacher, whom they paid out of their own pockets.
18)India’s population will keep on rising and the UN expects it to reach around 1.6 billion by 2050, by which time it will have overtaken China to become the world’s most populated country.One of the biggest challenges will be the supply of water.
Agriculture uses most of India’s fresh water. If India is to feed a population of 1.6 billion it will need to dramatically increase its agricultural production.
about 1 year ago
Just wanted to say it was nice to read some civilized conversation finally and agree with most of what Farrukh and rahul discussed. I think if there is intent means will be found just hope more people get the message.
about 1 year ago
abdlsy, as a neutral observer, i can tell you one thing. The WORLD perceives India to be the hub of global IT outsourcing, and, the WORLD, perceives Pakistan to be the center of global terrorism outsourcing.
as to your numerous references of civil unrest in your comment. i do believe that these are issues internal to India and do not affect people across its borders. Unfortunately the same cannot be said about Pakistan.
As for India being eternally obsessed with occupying Pakistani territory, i have to say that if that were the case, the INDIAN leaders would not have allowed the partition to occur in the first place.
There is a difference b/w being patriotic and being jingoistic and im afraid you are being the latter.
Please be sensitive to the fact that it is not what happens WITHIN Pakistan that troubles the world, but what the elements operating FROM pakistan (whoever they are) are capable of inflicting to the rest of the world is shocking.
When an act of governmental negligence (in whatever form), affects OUTSIDE nations, i deem it incumbent on the govt. country FROM where the insurgence originated to accept responsibility. This is just common sense and not diplomacy of any form. Kindly take a minute and think about that without being hindered by your sense of national pride.
about 1 year ago
Stanley marsh, who are you in this discussion, what CRAPPY concept of partition, go read history, you commented Indian leaders allowed partition???, it was the colonial british, you moron. World perceive lots of stuff about USA, Russia and china, does it matter to any of these countries, without understanding core of the issues, its easy to comment in the comfort of your home.Need more research from your part.If you are Indian arent you little ashamed of the sensitive critical issues I mentioned above, fix them and start being a good neighbour and pakistani govt is trying hard too.Bye
about 1 year ago
Acorn, could not agree more with your post on that idiot zaid hamid. He says that both 9/11 and the mumbai attacks have been stage managed by US and india respectively.
How insensitive can a person be. It was ridiculous to see that the pak media brings these so called experts on their shown and making themselves a big laughing stock in front of the entire world.
abdlsy,
I do not understand what is the relevance of the reports of HIV prevalance in India to this terror attacks. Yes, india is a poor country with a good % of people living on less than $2 a day. Yes, we do have poor security system/infrastructure etc.
Let us deal with our own problems. There are no overnight solution to these problems.
There is a growing sense of oppurtunity within our country. We are working hard, getting good jobs and the standard of living has improved over the last decade or so. You might want to visit some of our indian cities and you will be surprised to see the difference between pakistani and indian cities. Now the middle class in india may only constitute about 30% of india’s population but we are slowly getting there. Unfortunately i cannot the same about pakistan. Stanley’s perception of both india and pakistan might give a perfect example of an outsider;s perspective.
Atleast we are not planning on killing innocent civilians in other countries. No one deserves to die like the people in mumbai did.
Imagine all the hardwork one puts in his life right from the day of his birth, slogging everyday only to be wiped in a moment of madness by some demented people.
A vast majority in pakistan too i believe are peace loving and do not support such heinous acts.
The pak government blaming the acts on non state actors does not give me much hope they will do anything about this attackers. I will be very happy if they do. As i write this article i read about a blast in peshawar. Pakistan cannot let anti-india terrorits thrive and fight againt the anti-pak islamic terrorists. All the terror i think is interlinked. They are both sides of the same coin and the sooner they realize it is better for them and the pakistani people.
about 1 year ago
of course India can tell all kind of crap and nonsense,
herself vulnerable to a rapid disintegration, controled by
her army,
700.000 in Kashmir busy Genociding,
150.000 will be soon engaged in Afghanistan,
leaving behind 400 millions of dalits, who have nothing,
another 500.millions have nothing to eat and wear,
the rest 150 millions waiting to bring each other to
shamshaan ghaat.
even Indian journalists confess.
It will be catastroph if Indians cross the border to come and
live in Pakistan on even VIsa, its not at all acceptable
i think the solution is this
GET THE HELL OUT OF KASHMIR i am a kshmiri and i want freedom.get ur 700000 soldiers out and we can prosper all together.
about 1 year ago
COMMENTS FROM INDIAN JOURNALIST; WOW read this;http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1210769
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DNA( daily news and analysis) NOW
Do not count on Pakistan in this
Parsa Venkateshwar Rao Jr
Monday, December 01, 2008 22:04 IST
Some sections of civil society and the media, as well as the BJP, the main opposition party in New Delhi, are obsessed with the Pakistan factor in the thinking about countering terror in the wake of the Mumbai terror assault. In the national capital’s civil society and media, the old Punjabi bonding and nostalgia about Lahore is the dominant factor that shapes the public stance.
These two groups feel that at this moment of distress and crisis both sides should reach out to each other and fraternise, and form a common front against the terrorists. Their argument is that Pakistan too is tottering under terrorist assault, and therefore this is the best time to strengthen the bonds across the border. And many of them point to the good work done by former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and former Pakistan general and president Pervez Musharraf in bringing the two countries together.
There is also the anti-Pakistan lobby — which surfaces mostly after every terrorist attack — and this is led by the BJP and its friends, saying that this is the time to bring Pakistan to book and expose its political crimes. The BJP is quite torn on this. On the one hand, it feels that it can find its own legitimacy by normalising India-Pakistan relations. On the other, the old atavistic sentiments reassert themselves. They want a gesture of war, if not real war, against Pakistan. That is what will give them emotional
satisfaction.
Many in this group want the fight against terror to become a full-fledged war against jihad, with all the unsubtle connotations that it carries. At the same time, they are also aware that after the 1998 nuclear weapons tests that the BJP carried out and which the party had flaunted as its great achievement, going to war with Pakistan is not an option. In the real world, this obsession with Pakistan in Delhi does not make sense. It is not because Pakistan is an irrelevant factor but due to the fact that Pakistan’s terror problem is a deeply internal one and it is not possible for friends and critics of Pakistan here to impose a solution there.
There is no doubt that jihadi groups — the Lashkar-e-Taiba is only one of them — based in Pakistan have a hand in the terror attack in Mumbai and in many others as well. There is not much that India can do about it. Even the Americans are learning that they cannot impose solutions on Pakistan.
Islamabad will have to modernise and liberalise itself. India cannot hope to have Pakistan on its side in the fight against terror. It has to be fought by India on its own. Common sense seems to suggest that this cannot be done. But this is an extraordinary situation and we have lived with an unfriendly, if not always a hostile, Pakistan for last 60 years. We can do this in the future as well. Pakistan can at best be an irritant to India. It cannot be a threat.
It will be necessary to constantly detect terrorist infiltration and repel terrorist attacks. It will be necessary to build sophisticated anti-terror machinery for this. It is no doubt hard and tedious work, but it the most effective way of doing it.
Meanwhile, Pakistan will have to decide on its own and for its own reasons whether it can continue to nurse Islamic extremist organizations as part of its deterrence policy against India. The Islamisation policy which had begun in the end-days of Cold War under Zia-ul-Haq had turned toxic for the country. This has become apparent to all thinking Pakistanis. They have a clear distaste for religious fanatics. But their policy-makers seem to be convinced that religious extremists have their uses and they should be allowed to exist as long as they do not cause problems at home. The Pakistan intelligentsia will have to recognise that they cannot sustain this double-edged policy without hurting, and even destroying, themselves.
India can only serve as a good example to Pakistan and others by uncompromisingly clamping down on religious terrorism – Hindu, Islamic, Sikh — within its borders and in its own society.
Email: r_parsa@dnaindia.net
about 1 year ago
Dear Author,
Before when you put some facts to general public, you should need to a ground work. Journalism is not an art where you draw something and to people inturn get admired.
In your above “Mumbai tragedy – A doable solution”. I would like to bring this to General Public who read this about this BLOG. Author was mentioning above that Isreal and Pakistan. I hope Author is fully aware that Pakistan doesnot recognise Isreal as a STATE. I am not drafting something which is not in place. Readers if you get a chance to meet a Pakistani friend ask his/her passport and take a look at page 3 or page 4. “THIS PASSPORT IS NOT VALID FOR TRAVEL TO ISREAL” I have seen this in Pakistan Passport. Howcome you can proganda something which is totally wrong “Better Relations with Isreal”. Author, when you put something in Internet it is not that everyone reads and get away, there are people who do some research on your research work. Moreover you need to recognise onething Pakistan is breeding terrorist and exporting them to other countries, which not only affect the end country it also affects your own existence. I am ordinary habbitant of this world, I don’t like to terror in any form, Infact people who are caught in terror should be punished not by hanging, but by the same way what the terror victim is going through.
Please present something which is 100% matterial. I would be happy if people read some truth of what is happening in Pakistan and what is happening in India(Growth, Technology and Development) it will tell helpful for readers to know and understand. I hope you would do that in your future articles.
Don’t talk about only the pain and sufferring happening in India or Pakistan, Put also some information of how Indian Muslims have attained some super growth (APJ Abdul Kalam, Premji & etc)
about 1 year ago
just came across this : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_confirms_Pakistan_role_in_Mumbai_attacks/articleshow/3800663.cms
guess the US is interested in occupying pak territory as well.. hmmm .. interesting..
come on guys…lets hear some more ridiculous defences about pak innocence… this shud be good
about 1 year ago
Sheikh and Apple both of you are quoting your own country’s newspapers. When you are gripped by war hysteria this happens. I can quote Pakistani journalists giving opposite testimony. Sheikh you have quoted a story mentioning Robert Kagan, he of course is a co-founder of the neocons, what can you expect from him? Such folks have lost leverage already. Acorn it is not true that I answer only to rants and hate messages. No sir I want to answer everyone but remember I am a working journalist. These days I get very little time for the internet. I’ll try to dedicate my next post to answering all your queries.
Finally John, I know what I am writing? Are you sure there is no communication between Israel and Pakistan? Any idea what do Pakistani leaders do when they visit Turkey? Can you check the following address for me in Tel Aviv? I know about the bar in our passport. I among those who oppose this bar:
Pakistan Embassy , Israel
No. 26 Hayarkon St.
68011
Tel Aviv
Israel
Phone:
+972-3-5170-760
+972-3-5170-761
Fax:
+972-3-5171-440
Email:
teltaman@aquanet.co.il
about 1 year ago
Dear Farrukh,
Your must understand, what I have written above. I had mentioned your country doesn’t recognise Isreal that True ? I don’t need to worry whether your country leaders go to Turkey and meet Isreal leaders over the ground/underground. You can’t claim just like that when it is clearly written over there in your passport. You don’t recognise your friend, however your friend recognises you and allow its people to visit your place what it really mean. Moreover I am not intrested into side bar conversions. I expect you write some article which help both sides in one way of other in cultivating Good mindset rather than destroying. 1.1 Billion Indians and out of that 1billion population is not against pakistan, they don’t even think about pakistan destruction in any walks of the life; they talk tough because when you guys cultivate the mindset of killing innocent people. Sharukh Khan has rightly said, there is Allah Islam and Mullah Islam…. try to bring that to your mullah’s who are highly corrupt. Moreover, I have worked with so many pakistani’s and I am still working with them. They are really nice people and I don’t have doubt over that, because of few rotten apples entire community is taken for toss!!!
God created Human, Human created Religion, Religion created Caste, Caste created Divide, Divide created Harted. Who has to blamed God or his creation ?
about 1 year ago
DEAR JOHN OR WHATEVER YOUR FAKE NAME IS, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS AUTHOR, WHY EVEN BOTHER TO INITIATE AN EXTENDED EFFORT ON YOUR PART TO EVEN COME TO THIS BLOG AND WASTE YOUR TIME AND WHEN I MAY RECALL THERE ARE CERTAIN PROTOCOLS TO FOLLOW BEING A JOURNALIST, CAN YOU VERIFY THIS JOURNALIST RULE BOOK, WE ARE FIRST PAKISTANIS, BUT THANKS TO FARUKHS NEUTRALITY IN HIS BLOG, HE IS ACTING IN A VERY VERY CIVILIZED, EDUCATED AND LOGICAL MANNER.JOHN YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO THE READERS IN YOUR COMMENTS, GET A DRINK OR SOME KIND OF LIFE,AMEN TO THAT.PLUS FARUUKH HAS NO TIME FOR LOWERING HIS IQ JUST TO EXPLAIN AND RESPOND TO ALL SPECIALLY HATE MONGERS WHO JUST SEE THE SITUATION IN ONE PRESPECTIVE ie BIAS, UNFAIR BASHING, HATRED AND NARROWMINDEDNESS.
about 1 year ago
abdlsy.. take it easy pal.. no one is blaming you personally for whatever happened… i think the author of the blog has enough wits to defend or convey his message without having you to stand up for him.. i fail to see why you do not understand that EVEN IF you admit that there WAS a certain amount of negligence on the part of the pak govt (mind you, im not saying they orchestrated this), it doesnt make you any less patriotic.. in fact, it would make you a better citizen of your country to accept a mistake and make amends to rectify it.. such citizens are the ones that make a nation prosper.. so relax.. if both Indian AND American agencies say that there was LeT involvement , with a certain amt. of ISI backing.. im sure there’s some truth to it.. have you even considered that possibility for a MINUTE ! .. the world is not so eager and jobless to hatch such an elaborate conspiracy against pak.. when all fingers point to you.. i think some introspection would be the best way forward… be it as an individual.. or as a nation. Farrukh, id like to see what you have to say about this
about 1 year ago
Thanks abdlsy, your support is much appreciated. I feel much obliged to all those who use reason on this site. Even hatemongers are welcome for at least they are talking which shows that instead of advocating blind application of force they, albeit reluctantly, are convinced of resolving issues through talk. These are signs of civilization that we, on both sides of the border can be proud of. John you can go on to blame whoever you want. Mate I have been quite an inquisitive student of propaganda. I know how cultural power can be used, with the help of the threat of war, perpetuate one version of an issue. Please understand that by mere words of your mouth you cannot convince anyone. There is need for hardcore proof and thus far that has not emerged.
Peace try to believe in the word you are using for name. Thus far if you think that any responsible US personnel has made a statement framing Pakistan for the attacks or a group within Pakistan please post the link here. I don’t think, however, that is the case. Yet please remember that that personnel should not be a neocon. As for the context of the possibility of a conspiracy please wait for my next post. Please do remember that I am very busy these days in talkshows. I’ll be posting the video of my today’s talkshow on IndoPak peace process and an earlier program in support the recognition of the state of Israel. Take care.
about 1 year ago
@abdlsy
i also support abdlsy in saying that Mr. Farrukh is doing quiet a well effort of staying neutral while bloggers here are saying very rude things about pakistan.First of its my point of view and i have discussed it much b4 that india never accepted the partition of The Sub-Continent.They want to rule in this region which they cant do just because they have loads of there own internal problems within india.Yesterday i saw channel reporting the conditions of general human being in india,I was shocked to learn that 80%(maybe more its a just rough figure) of indian population have nothing to do with their internal and external policy.Its the hindu Zionists who are ruling everywhere like The Jews controlling the whole American policy.These hindu zionists overtook india in past when BJP was in government because of their hardliners within BJP Like Mr. L.K.Advani.So My point is just that the majority of the peoples in both the countries dont have participation in their country’s politicsand policy making decisions.Lets hope one day we get representation of the general public.
about 1 year ago
@My$0.02
Dear Mr. whatsoever we have nothing to do with your so called booming economy which is due to the fact that americans are investing billions of dollars to penetrate in your country’s policy making decisions.Dont see it so simple that India Is booming just because you have huge amounts of it experts,software engineers who are ruling Microsoft and many others.i accept that you people rock in IT.But dont forget that india is ruled by the Most precious human beings(The Brahmins) according to their thinking, and everyone knows what their ideology is?So please bother about india developing at a marginal rate but not for ordinary human beings in india(which according to The Hindu Zionists have no right to live).I dont want to discuss that when A dalit struglles in india just to stay alive.i can give very famous example of Mr A R Rehman who is ruling bollywood now,was struggling in mumbai when he was a Dalit.In pakistan you will not find any person whose thinking is that he becomes unclean by touching poor human beings.i have been seen this in india everywhere.So please give your public basic human rights first then talk about indian booming economy and etc.